Probably K9 not Outlook - Re: Outlook 2010 not connecting to secure POP3

Robert Moskowitz rgm at
Sun Nov 23 23:27:27 UTC 2014

On 11/23/2014 05:59 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> Am 23.11.2014 um 23:30 schrieb Robert Moskowitz:
>> On 11/23/2014 04:45 PM, Robert Schetterer wrote:
>>> Am 23.11.2014 um 22:33 schrieb Reindl Harald:
>>>> no idea what you are talking about
>>>> K9 is a android client and works fine with TLS
>>>> no idea what has "https" to do with email nor why someone needs to
>>>> "disable K9 long enugh" whatever "long enough" is - don't get me wrong
>>>> but most technical context on several lists of you if it comes to
>>>> details is cluttered and your permanently "i am working on IETF" even
>>>> makes things worser
>>> Yeah, such descriptions are leading to confusion, speculation
>>> k9 got mail downloaded before outlook idea why sombody
>>> should use k9 with pop3
>> And I did not know there was a K9 android app.  K9 like in guard dogs.
> that's why you should be precise in what you are posting - in context 
> of mail K9 is for pretty anybody 

Got it for next time.

>> The default settings only allow https stuff on port 443.  Must be some
>> attempt to get around controls to use TLS on any other port.
> uhm "telnet server port" is still the way to go *before* start other 
> debuggings, if that don't work no need to try a high level client 
> until that problem is solved

Well, since this was a secure connection test, needed openssl for the 
connect, not telnet.  And how to do that on Windows?  I DID try it on 
this F20 notebook, and of course it worked just fine.  That was why I 
really suspected Windows TLS functions.  Then when I was trying again, I 
caught a little pop up in the system tray saying how the nanny software 
was blocking the bad program that was trying to do https to port 995...

I really should be so harsh about the nanny software.  It DOES protect a 
lot of families from content they do not want to see. Just that the 
defaults no longer match where we want internet privacy to go.

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