[Dovecot] New messages notification - (IMAP PUSH?)
Hello all.
I have strange problem. As I understand IMAP use server2client command to tell what new email is arrived.
So - all was good, but few weeks ago I notice what my thunderbird not show new messages. I think it was local problem(I switch distro what day) but soon my email clients what uses mostly Outlook-2007-SP1 start to confirm this problem.
What can it be and how can I fix it? I use Dovecot on FreeBSD-7.1
#pkg_info | grep dovecot dovecot-1.1.11 dovecot-managesieve-0.10.5 dovecot-sieve-1.1.6
#dovecot -n
1.1.11: /usr/local/etc/dovecot.conf
OS: FreeBSD 7.1-RELEASE-p3 i386 ufs
base_dir: /var/run/dovecot/ log_path: /var/log/dovecot/dovecot.log info_log_path: /var/log/dovecot/dovecot-debug.log protocols: imap imaps pop3 pop3s managesieve listen(default): * listen(imap): * listen(pop3): * listen(managesieve): *:2000 ssl_ca_file: /usr/local/etc/certs/GlobalSignCA.crt ssl_cert_file: /usr/local/etc/certs/fxclub_org.crt ssl_key_file: /usr/local/etc/certs/fxclub_org.key ssl_cipher_list: ALL:!LOW:!SSLv2 login_dir: /var/run/dovecot/login login_executable(default): /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/imap-login login_executable(imap): /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/imap-login login_executable(pop3): /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/pop3-login login_executable(managesieve): /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/managesieve-login login_greeting_capability(default): yes login_greeting_capability(imap): yes login_greeting_capability(pop3): no login_greeting_capability(managesieve): no login_process_size: 128 login_processes_count: 20 login_max_processes_count: 512 mail_max_userip_connections(default): 256 mail_max_userip_connections(imap): 256 mail_max_userip_connections(pop3): 20 mail_max_userip_connections(managesieve): 10 verbose_proctitle: yes first_valid_gid: 0 mail_privileged_group: mail mail_uid: dmail mail_gid: dmail mail_location(default): maildir:/var/spool/dovecot/domains/%d/%n/ mail_location(imap): maildir:/var/spool/dovecot/domains/%d/%n/ mail_location(pop3): maildir:/var/spool/dovecot/domains/%d/%n/ mail_location(managesieve): mail_debug: yes mail_executable(default): /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/imap mail_executable(imap): /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/imap mail_executable(pop3): /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/pop3 mail_executable(managesieve): /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/managesieve mail_process_size: 512 mail_plugins(default): quota imap_quota autocreate mail_plugins(imap): quota imap_quota autocreate mail_plugins(pop3): quota mail_plugins(managesieve): mail_plugin_dir(default): /usr/local/lib/dovecot/imap mail_plugin_dir(imap): /usr/local/lib/dovecot/imap mail_plugin_dir(pop3): /usr/local/lib/dovecot/pop3 mail_plugin_dir(managesieve): /usr/local/lib/dovecot/managesieve imap_client_workarounds(default): delay-newmail tb-extra-mailbox-sep imap_client_workarounds(imap): delay-newmail tb-extra-mailbox-sep imap_client_workarounds(pop3): imap_client_workarounds(managesieve): pop3_client_workarounds(default): pop3_client_workarounds(imap): pop3_client_workarounds(pop3): outlook-no-nuls oe-ns-eoh pop3_client_workarounds(managesieve): sieve_storage(default): sieve_storage(imap): sieve_storage(pop3): sieve_storage(managesieve): % sieve(default): sieve(imap): sieve(pop3): sieve(managesieve): ~/.dovecot.sieve auth default: mechanisms: plain login user: dovecot-auth username_format: %Lu verbose: yes worker_max_count: 100 passdb: driver: ldap args: /usr/local/etc/dovecot-ldap.conf userdb: driver: ldap args: /usr/local/etc/dovecot-ldap.conf socket: type: listen client: path: /var/run/dovecot/auth-client mode: 432 user: exim master: path: /var/run/dovecot/auth-master mode: 384 user: dmail plugin: quota: maildir quota_rule: *:storage=1024M quota_rule2: Trash:storage=1256M quota_rule3: SPAM:ignore quota_warning: storage=80%% /usr/local/bin/quota-warning.sh 80 quota_warning2: storage=95%% /usr/local/bin/quota-warning.sh 95 autocreate: Trash autocreate2: Sent autocreate3: Spam autosubscribe: Trash autosubscribe2: Sent autosubscribe3: Spam
-- Best regards, Proskurin Kirill
Curtis Maloney wrote:
They not show at all. Then I click at IMAP folder - they start to show at that folder. I have about 40 IMAP folders - and it is hard to push at every folder minute after minute. ;-)
I not change anything at config and really dont know why this problem appears. And I dont know how to test it by IMAP commands.
-- Best regards, Proskurin Kirill
On May 5, 2009, at 2:05 AM, Proskurin Kirill wrote:
The only way this might be Dovecot's fault is if STATUS commands don't
see the new mail. For example:
a STATUS mailboxname (MESSAGES UNSEEN)
If running that command sees updated values, the problem is with
Thunderbird which probably doesn't even try to send that command then.
I don't really know if TB normally does that or not, most other
clients do anyway.
See also http://wiki.dovecot.org/TestInstallation for how to login/etc.
Timo Sirainen wrote:
b STATUS Inbox (MESSAGES UNSEEN)
- STATUS "Inbox" (MESSAGES 1267 UNSEEN 15) b OK Status completed.
I notice what time after time in _some_ mailboxes all seems good. I use TB 2.0.0.21 and my clients use Outlook 2007 SP1. Problem appears seems to at one day and client independent.
I running out of ideas.
-- Best regards, Proskurin Kirill
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On Wed, 6 May 2009, Proskurin Kirill wrote:
In response to Curtis Maloney you've wrote:
TB gets the messages, but it does not get the new-messages notice, because another client has the same mailbox selected. Once you click in TB on the folder, TB's view of the mailbox is sync'ed with the content of the mailbox on the server.
In my mind, you have two solutions:
a) use shared mailboxes with per-user "SEEN" flag
b) force TB to sync all the folders now and then. I do this with the "offline" settings. Dunno if you can automate this feature.
Bye,
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On Wed, 6 May 2009, Proskurin Kirill wrote:
Hm. But I only one who use this mailbox. I check it. :-)
You didn't denied this assumption earlier :)
But - I heavy use managesieve and local TB filtering rules. May be this is a clue?
I guess not. Did you double checked that you enabled "Check for new mail ..." in both the server configuration and each of the mailboxes?
If so, I would drop SSL/TLS and sniff the connection, whether or not Thunderbird checks the mailboxes at all.
Bye,
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Steffen Kaiser wrote:
You didn't denied this assumption earlier :)
Sorry. :-)
Yes I check it.
If so, I would drop SSL/TLS and sniff the connection, whether or not Thunderbird checks the mailboxes at all.
Seems to it is not possible in near future. It is heavy used production server. :-(
-- Best regards, Proskurin Kirill
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On Wed, 6 May 2009, Matthijs Kooijman wrote:
Matthijs, "rawlog" is all correct and is the correct way in Dovecot.
But if you are not prepared to alter mail_execute on the fly, you are lost. The change to the "postexec" scripting requires a reload as well, if I remember correctly; and you get the performance penalty. Proskurin would risk the stability of his server.
Bye,
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On Wed, 6 May 2009, Proskurin Kirill wrote:
Therefore I prefer this solution over "rawlog", no need to touch the server or sever-side user settings.
I mean to disable the SSL/TLS on _client_ side. So you can read the sniffed connection, also on the client. If you are located in an insecure environment, you could forward a port on 127.0.0.1 to the server via sslwrap or stunnel, but still sniff the unencrypted client connection to the local port.
Bye,
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On 5/4/2009 4:21 AM, Proskurin Kirill wrote:
Is mail.check_all_imap_folders_for_new set in your Thunderbird configuration? It's an advanced setting Tools->Options->Advanced->General->Config Editor
If that value is not True Thunderbird only checks the currently selected folder and the inbox for new messages.
A similar issue was brought up in the recent thread titled "Imap notifications in IDLE"
Jonathan
Hello all!
Well after some testing I got this:
It is managesieve related problem. I message put in some folder via sieve - TB & Outlook don`t see this message.
TB have a workaround described by Jonathan: mail.check_all_imap_folders_for_new must be set "true" in your Thunderbird configuration. It's an advanced setting Tools->Options->Advanced->General->Config Editor
I don`t have a clue how fix it for a Outlook.
Any hints?
-- Best regards, Proskurin Kirill
participants (6)
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Curtis Maloney
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Jonathan
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Matthijs Kooijman
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Proskurin Kirill
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Steffen Kaiser
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Timo Sirainen